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Hiya sir can remember western Scottish running a few in Jaffa cake livery from January 1991 thru 1994 predominantly oan lochside and locharbriggs routes in Dumfries Scotland very interesting wee channel sir ,I myself used to scrap buses circa 2002 predominantly ex McEwan's of Dumfries Duple bodied Leyland leopard and the odd ex western Scottish (unfortunately by then part o the evil stagecoach empire) Alexander bodied Leyland leopards McEwan's ones were death traps while ex western Scottish ones were like new Alexander bodied ones were far better quality than Duple rubbish oh well thanx sir and greetings from Dumfries Scotland

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I caught a ride in one that had passed to a small Sydney private operator back in the mid 1990s and was amazed how spacious and comfortable a 1968 bus could feel. It felt very solid and free of rattles and felt better than many much newer buses. That ZF Busmatic and Leyland lump was a fantastic sound combination. Beautiful coverage of the Brissy Panther story.

The council really took a gamble with replacing an entire trolly system with the bus system based on American advisors, and it all worked out, Really enjoy these videos, thumbs up,

Hi Jeffrey, I wonder if the west nederlands Nationals took the window screen( to reduce window reflections) design from the Panthers. Well researched video thank you.

The first 40 with pneumocyclic transmissions were a dream. So nice to drive. The 2 speed ZFs were slow, but durable. The front platform arrangement was brilliant. On the flip side of their lives, the aluminium in the Brisbane Leopards and Panthers made them particularly valuable when they were sent to scrap.

Informative video, thank you. It was a brave order by Brisbane, to acquire so many of what was, then, a relatively new and untried bus. I understand the chassis frame was shared with its AEC counterpart, the Swift. Both suffered (allegedly) from flexing, which caused problems later in life with the bodywork on some examples. Maybe the adoption of a design with thicker window pillars than contemporary UK designs mitigated against this. Whatever, they seemed to perform well enough "down under"

I think the Portsmouth and King Alfred of Winchester Panthers were the most attractive versions of the Panther in the UK but I will have to "pass" on the looks of these Brisbane Panthers but they may be "an acquired taste".

Great video! But your pronounciation of Brisbane is a bit off, the 'bane' part should be pronounced more like 'bin'. Also, if you're interested, you should check out John Dunn's history of Commonwealth Engineering series. Vol. 2 go over these buses a little bit, but what you'd find more interesting would be Comeng's involvement with the Budd company. Both of them worked together alot, and Vol. 5 goes in depth on the Comeng designed C1/C3 cars for the LIRR in NYC. Vol. 3 also talks a lot about the 1950s era of Budd and how they adapted Budd's stainless steel for use in trains in Australia. I've read all 5 volumes and I use them frequently for making my own videos. They're a fascinating read.

14:56 Greater Manchester Transport copied the San Francisco MUNI "M". I wonder if they still use it?

Nice to see a video on my every day ride, back when I was a school kid. In fact quite something to see the Bus Route - 3A I rode on actually pictured.

Peter Wyngard had a pretty extraordinary life. He actually grew up in a Japanese concentration camp during the war, which was more than what Jason King could claim...

Addendum,one of my first public bu photos was of,one of the Mancunians on 5th Avenue! Never did get to ride on one! Ah,the 1970's,a most interesting time! Thank you! 😇 ! 😊

Jeff,a suggestion! Liverpool Green Goddesses,DD Trams! A very modern design of the 1940's[?],later went to Glasgow,Scotland! Very interesting! Thank you 😇 😊!

I remember Ribble Motor Services, one of the largest independent bus operators outside ofLondon and part of the BET group, used to have high bridge and low bridge versions of the Atlantean. Inside of the upper saloon above the front windows, it would say 13' 6" on the low bridge and 14' 6" on the high bridge. Not sure if this was to reassure the front seat upper saloon passengers though! I think they had some high and low bridge Leyland Titans before the Atlanteans as well.

I grew up with these. By far my favourite model

Very nice but Alexander an68 More appealing Alexander an 68 Tyne and wear pre please

Be sure to skip to 5:20 bro is respectfully yapping

As an extreme oblong box, the vehicle really is attractive.

Well Done Jeff Why Were Did All The American Buses Have Their Front And Rear Axles Further Apart From European Making Then Harder To Turn Corners And Why Use Fuel Drinking Screaming Jimmy's LOL

Given that the all-up weight of a British 1950's era double decker bus was around 27,000 to 33,000 pounds, so somewhere around 15,000 to 18,000 pounds on the front axle, removing the upper front sets to remove 8 passengers (about 1,200 pounds) is not going to make any noticeable difference to handling or wear on front end components. It must have been some non-technical manager's bright idea.

Jeffrey said the bus had a Cave-Brown-Cave cooling system. I have heard of a Cave-Brown-Cave cabin heating and ventilation system, but what the heck is a Cave-Brown-Cave cooling system? Did you make a mistake, Jeffrey? Jeffrey said it had no radiator. Given the engine was a standard Gardner water cooled engine, not air cooled, how can this be?

Going on what Jeffrey has said about this bus, it is not an Edsel of busses. Jeffrey has said that the bus failed due to design deficiencies causing excessive wear of certain parts and poor handling. The Edsel car design was quite sound and did not have any vices, but was a marketing failure because people didn't like the styling - they didn't like the big vagina-looking thing on the front. There appears nothing wrong with the bus styling. And the Edsel name was not inspiring like Ford's other model names eg Falcon, Customline, etc. The bus is more like a Triumph Herald car, which had handling vices and for which there developed a market for upgrade kits to replace front end parts intended to never need greasing, but lasted only a year. One used to see that occasional Herald with no back window, as they went translucent so you couldn't see what was behind. Heralds had a paper-mache dash too, which didn't last long.

The really damning feature of the Bridgemaster was the integral construction. Apart from London, nobody at that period was interested in a vehicle which did not allow the operator to specify their own body manufacturer. This was particularly the case when there was still a substantial number of coachbuilders to choose from, and municipal operators particularly often had a favoured (often local) supplier prepared to customise bodies to suit their particular requirements. There had been several previous attempts to sell integral vehicles by Beadle, Sentinel, Leyland (with the Olympic) and others, all ending in tears. London had some integral AEC trolleybuses prewar, but even the Routemaster found only a single customer outside London in the shape of Northern General.

Its a shame AEC never developed a Rearmaster (like the one off FRM but with a chassis. However the Leyland takeover killed that off, and they refused to produce the FRM in quantity offering the AV691 engine in the Bristol VRT.There were no takers . Between 1970-74 British Leyland were rhe only double deck builders with the Leyland Atlantean, Daimler/Leyland Fleetline and Bristol VR Grim days!

My dad drove one for years

I remember riding these buses in suburban Chicago….when the Grummans were pulled from service they were replaced by school buses and older buses from the Chicago Transit Authority

The materials are a mystery. That would make it or break it.

Good onya Jeffrey love ya videos, I've lived in Australia for 43 years but originally from UK, Great work mate and very interesting! Can I put in a Suggestion? I'm originally from Reading (pronounced Redding) in Berkshire, we had trolley buses up to 1968, I was a 16 year old kid with my camera on the farewell day in August 1968, May I suggest a future vid by you on the Trolly Buses of Reading? Not just me but I'd say quite a few people would just Love it! Many thanks Jeffrey not bad for a Yank! 😂 Cheers Mate!

I remember them well, didn’t like the way that they rattled and shacked , as the engine ticked over or over any road that wasn’t perfectly smooth .

Went to school many times on 310 MFC [5.21] when new with City of Oxford in the 1960s..was allocated to Wantage Depot. Thanks for posting🙂

Belgrade, Yugoslavia, use to have Leyland buses. They were known as having misterious semi-automatic transmission with no clutch. They also were had to kept running in the winter over night, as if engine drops to low temperature, it would not start.

the distinctive Dark Blue and Red Livery on Accrington Corporation Buses (11:55) was a tribute after World War One as it was the Regimental colours of the 'Accrington Pals' Battallion who were practically wiped out on the first day of the battle of the Somme July 1st 1916. a sad loss to the town of Accrington, East Lancahire. i remember the colours so well as a kid in 1960's.

Honestly its not a scam if it was amtraks decision to run it, it was sort of an unproven concept that really didnt get to improve, The Canadian sets faired better. I think some of the bigger issues that made the UAC not a big thing. were the modular truck design & the turbines being expensive af. The UAC was a rushed concept that should've had more time to develop, the PDCs were litterally bigger than they needed to be due to a swap from Diesel to turbine power mid development! But with the speeds it was capable of, and being able to enter NYP, i think the UAC could've been a good thing for American high speed rail but due to the Ground speed act the DOT wanted a fast train fast, and lead to the UAC as we knew it.

Very interesting video Jeffery. I'm sure they used Guy buses on East Lincolnshire services also. Thank you so much.

One of the worst watch review I read.

When I was a kid, my mate's dad had a Guy bus, took it to rallys all over the place. It was a single deck "Guy Special." Great fun. Messing with it. Happy memories.

We still rode a Leyland national to school and back from 2008-2013 when the Leyland Olympics were off the road

No thank you Jeffrey, your content is GREAT!

Thanks! Greetings from Wales. It did look a lot like the Daimler Fleetline, which is my favourite bus. Would love to see you review one of those.

Jesus I thought it was a bot voice-over at first....

I remember them well. Yes, they were basic inside….easier for cleaning I assume.

We had these in Canberra, Australia back in the 70s. 17 built in the UK and 54 built in Australia. Our bus service, ACTION, had three covered bus depots for overnight parking but these buses could only park in one because the air-con unit was too high for two depots.

I grew up with the East Yorkshire Bridgemasters from dark blue to NBC poppy red. EYMS was our local bus company. I never liked them, preferring the Atlanteans.

First I enjoy being able to put a face to the voice, secondly what is the story on the radiator less cooling system?!?

AEC later had the Renown, which was slightly more successful and looked quite a bit better. They are worth a look too!

Sounds like two stroke diesel.

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I enjoyed this thanks. I rode on a lot of these, always good.